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		<title>Entering the Orb: The Big Bird</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(This isn&#8217;t Mothman related, but it does have a slight mothy vibe, sort of, in terms of a large bird or shadow of a bird in connection with UFOs, missing time and screen memories.) At my blog The Orange Orb, &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2011/07/26/entering-the-orb-the-big-bird/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This isn&#8217;t Mothman related, but it does have a slight mothy vibe, sort of, in terms of a large bird or shadow of a bird in connection with UFOs, missing time and screen memories.) </p>
<p>At my blog <a href="http://orangeorb.blogspot.com">The Orange Orb</a>, I&#8217;ve been posting entries concerning a new project I&#8217;m  (and my husband, Jim) are working on. A sort of journal/book &#8212; or will be, when all is done &#8212; about our missing time experiences. And screen memories. You can read what I have up so far <a href="http://orangeorb.blogspot.com/2011/07/book-project-entering-orb.html">here</a> and <a href="http://orangeorb.blogspot.com/2011/07/entering-orb-part-2-decision-on.html">here.</a></p>
<p>I read the two entries to Jim earlier this evening. We were discussing the entries, which led to memories from childhood as well as our memories concerning missing time. He doesn&#8217;t remember the orange orb sighting the same way I do; he doesn&#8217;t remember seeing, at another time, a sliver sphere shaped craft during late day, early evening&#8230; but then he said, just out of nowhere:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I seem to remember a big bird, not something silver. We were into bird watching at that time. [true] Just you pointing out a big bird through the trees, and I wasn&#8217;t seeing it, just a shadow &#8230;&#8221;<br />
Me; “A big one&#8230;” [I don't know why I said that; what made me say anything at all about size or a bird shadow; I have no memory of this.]<br />
Jim “A good sized bird, like a hawk. I don’t want to put too much on it because it might be a projection.”<br />
Me “But something made you say that in connection with this.”<br />
Jim: “Now it sort of haunts me that&#8230;  I&#8217;m very interested, what with everything that’s gone on in our lives&#8230;”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s it, and it isn&#8217;t much, and who knows if it means anything or not. I just found it very interesting Jim was so specific about a &#8220;big bird&#8221; and &#8220;a shadow&#8230;a good sized bird&#8221; out of the blue like that.</p>
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		<title>Strange Frequency: Bird Visitations, Beeping, Radio Noise</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(The following experience I had the night of Japan&#8217;s earthquake isn&#8217;t directly related to Mothman. Nor am I suggesting it was part of the Mothman energy; and yet, there is a bit of a Mothy vibe to this, and so &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2011/03/12/strange-frequency-bird-visitations-beeping-radio-noise/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(<em>The following experience I had the night of Japan&#8217;s earthquake isn&#8217;t directly related to Mothman. Nor am I suggesting it was part of the Mothman energy; and yet, there is a bit of a Mothy vibe to this, and so I&#8217;m posting it here. I want to make it clear this winged visitor was not &#8220;evil,&#8221; or a negative energy in any way. My fearful response to it was due to my own anxieties and fears, not the intent of this bird like entity.</em>)</p>
<p>I had an extremely unusual experience the night of Japan&#8217;s earthquake which involved a large, swooping-in-on-me bird-like figure, beeping sounds from deep within my head getting louder and louder, and a synchronicity the next day concerning tsunamai&#8217;s and Thunderbirds.</p>
<p>As I posted on both The Orange Orb and Animal Forteana, this is what happened:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had a very strange experience last night. I spent much of the night sleeping little; listening mainly to Coast to Coast and the news coming in on the earthquake in Japan, and soon after, the tsunami warnings. Earliest reports were warnings for Hawaii and the Washington and Oregon coasts; later, California and Alaska.</p>
<p>I was compelled to listen through the night because of the sheer tragedy and immensity of another overwhelming earth disaster, and also, because we had planned to drive to the coast that day (approximately fifty miles from our home) and spend the weekend there. I was also concerned about my mother and friends on the Oregon coast, as well as family living up and down the Pacific coast.  I tried to sleep, managed to doze off for a while but kept waking up, turning the little transistor on again. Throughout Coast to Coast local tsunami warnings came through, announcing beach and school closures for the Oregon coast.</p>
<p>At one point, a deep beeping sound woke me up. This beeping was deep within me; not from an external source, not an acoustic anomaly. It was inside of me. It became louder, and with it, I saw a large dark bird come flying towards me. All I could see was the shape, no details. Slowly flapping its huge wings as it came towards me, as the beeping got louder and louder. A glowing whitish-blue light or &#8220;halo&#8221; surrounded this bird. This bird vision was indie my head, not external, but it was definitely connected to the beeping sound. At first I thought the bird was an owl; and it might had been, but it seemed to be something else as well. What, I&#8217;m not sure. I had conflicting responses to this bird; one, that all this was pretty damn interesting but as the owl, or bird-creature, came closer, along with the light, I became a little scared and tried to shut it out. It sort of exploded when I did that, and I had the feeling this bird-like creature was both frustrated with me and disappointed that I chose to ignore it.</p>
<p>Then, I heard, again from that same, deep-within place inside me, the sounds of voices talking on the radio. So I told myself it was the radio; I still had it on, the ear buds in my ears. But the radio and ear -buds were both on the night table, and the radio was off.</p>
<p>I cannot describe how this was<em> not</em> a dream. It was <em>not </em>a dream that I awoke from, it was <em>not a hypnogognic dream</em>, it was not a dream then I awake to find I&#8217;m really still dreaming, &#8230; none of that. <em>None of that</em>. I was completely awake. The radio talk within continued; I tried very hard to listen to make sense out of it but the voices were indistinct.</p>
<p><strong>Thunderbird Synchronicity</strong><br />
After I wrote this, I visited The Anomalist to find this link to a post from Loren Coleman at Cryptomundo: Tsunamis and Thunderbirds, which explores the stories of Native Americans in the Pacific Northwest and earthquakes:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is amazing what Thunderbird folklore may tell us about past tsunamis, says Ruth Ludwin, a University of Washington scientist. Her research has found that Thunderbird and other cryptid stories and traditions “could relate to a large Seattle fault earthquake around A.D. 900 and specific eyewitness accounts linked to a mammoth 1700 earthquake and tsunami in the Cascadia subduction zone.”</p>
<p>    “Along the way, I picked up a lot of stories about landslides,” she said. But she couldn’t find anything that seemed to match the 1700 event, until she took a closer look at the story of Thunderbird and Whale.</p>
<p>    “It’s a story of the underworld versus the over-world,” Ludwin said.</p>
<p>    The Whale was a monster, killing other whales and depriving the people of meat and oil. The Thunderbird, a benevolent supernatural being, saw from its home high in the mountains that the people were starving. The great bird soared out over the coastal waters, then plunged into the ocean and seized the Whale.</p>
<p>    A struggle ensued first in the water, the tribal tale says. “The waters receded and rose again. Many canoes came down in trees and were destroyed and numerous lives were lost.”</p>
<p>    The Thunderbird eventually succeeds in lifting the evil Whale out of the ocean, carrying it “high into the air (and then) dropping it to the land surface at Beaver prairie. Then at this place there was another great battle.”
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<p><strong>On the Coast</strong><br />
After phone calls back and forth and following news reports we decided to drive to the coast, which turned out to be a beautiful drive. The tsunami warnings for this area have been lifted. As I&#8217;m typing this I&#8217;m looking out at the shore, listening to the ocean.</p></blockquote>
<p>I described the bird like visitor as possibly an owl, because that was the closet thing I could think of at the time. But it this &#8220;bird&#8221; or more appropriately, winged creature, had an intelligence about it, an awareness, that transcended mundane animals. (Including us humans.) It was a messenger from another realm, it was spirit.</p>
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		<title>From Beachcombing&#8217;s Bizarre History Blog: &#8216;Baby-eating eagles&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 04:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beachcombing discusses the legend of giant birds, eagles, Thunderbirds, and so on, and their baby snatching ways. He begins thusly: When Beachcombing first came to Italy, many years ago, he spent a summer in a room with an enormous wardrobe &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2010/11/09/from-beachcombings-bizarre-history-blog-baby-eating-eagles/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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Beachcombing discusses the legend of giant birds, eagles, Thunderbirds, and so on, and their baby snatching ways. He begins thusly:<br />
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<blockquote>When Beachcombing first came to Italy, many years ago, he spent a summer in a room with an enormous wardrobe – the stuff of C.S. Lewis fantasies. This wardrobe was not only huge, but it also had a memorable print on the front. An eagle was being attacked by a weepy mother and in the eagle’s claws was a small baby that the mother had foolishly left in a meadow. The image entered Beachcombing’s dreams – be careful what you put on your wardrobes – and Beachcombing has set himself, in an act of nostalgia, a question: is there a single well-documented case of an eagle carrying off a baby or child?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Mothman-Like Encounters: Humanoid/Cryptid Encounter Reports 24, From Phantoms and Monsters</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 06:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fortean, eerie cryptid encounters, including decidely Mothman like meetings with cryptids, on Phantoms and Monsters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortean, eerie cryptid encounters, including decidely Mothman like meetings with cryptids, on <a href="http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2010/10/humanoid-cryptid-encounter-reports-24.html">Phantoms and Monsters</a>. </p>
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		<title>Taken Up By An Eagle</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve commented in the previous post, I&#8217;ve been working on exploring memories and dreams, trying to get closer to what &#8220;really&#8221; happened with these experiences. Missing time, UFOs, and other high strangeness; what is behind these events? For example: &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/11/16/taken-up-by-an-eagle/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve commented in the previous post, I&#8217;ve been working on exploring memories and dreams, trying to get closer to what &#8220;really&#8221; happened with these experiences. Missing time, UFOs, and other high strangeness; what is behind these events? For example: missing time. Where was I (or we, since two, and recently it&#8217;s been considered, possibly three, missing time events experienced by my husband as well,) so where were we, what was happening?! during these missing time times. The world didn&#8217;t stop while we were &#8212; whereever we were. The point is, my mind doesn&#8217;t remember but obviously things were still happening around me, us. . . the question is of course, what?</p>
<p>I was working on my Orange Orb column for UFO Magazine last night (wrote a full article on one memory &#8220;dream&#8221; that I call the &#8220;bedroom radiator alien&#8221; but followed where that led me, to an earlier memory, of the following &#8220;dream.&#8221; ) Like my patio alien &#8220;dream&#8221; I had around the same age (but in a different house) this memory has stayed with me for some fifty years or so, as vivid as the day it happened. It wasn&#8217;t a dream and yet, it <em>must</em> have been, since it couldn&#8217;t have literally happened:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I&#8217;m flat on my back in the dead center of my bed, which I remember as being large, and white; white sheets, and just a white covering. The bedroom is lit up very bright; which I wonder at: if I&#8217;m supposed to be asleep why are all the lights on? </p>
<p>I am so full of happiness!!!! I have an expectant joy that is so wonderful; I know &#8220;they&#8221; are coming. I stare up at the ceiling in anticipation. The ceiling opens up, two halves move up and outwards, revealing the starry night sky. </p>
<p>A giant eagle &#8212; so huge it&#8217;s almost the size of the open ceiling &#8212; swoops down from the sky, to my left, and down into the bedroom, right above me. It&#8217;s come to take me up. As the eagle flies into the room I turn and see my parents, my grandmother, and some others, standing in the doorway. They seem to be stuck there; they aren&#8217;t coming into the room. They&#8217;re just watching.  I&#8217;m very glad to see my father but am a little confused; he doesn&#8217;t live with us and I don&#8217;t understand why or how it is he&#8217;s here.</p>
<p>The eagle comes, it&#8217;s so fantastic! </em>
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<p>It wasn&#8217;t until last night that I realized there is a Thunderbird and Mothman connection to this experience. At age five or so I didn&#8217;t know what Thunderbirds were, nor did I know anything about Mothman of course. </p>
<p>I started doing some research about eagles in terms of UFO accounts and before I knew it, I had found all kinds of interesting things; things that will take awhile to explore.</p>
<p>One thing I found that I haven&#8217;t read fully but did skim is an article  for the E.L.F. Infested Spaces  (ELFIS) &#8216;zine by Jeffrey Lewis: <a href="http://www.elfis.net/elfol3/idstk.html"><em>Idiot Stick &#8211; Whitley Strieber&#8217;s Encounters</em>. </a> It is <em>very</em> esoteric and I only mention it because of the thinking done by Lewis on the nature of dreams, memories, symbolism and connections in the context of UFOs, aliens and entities. Frankly I don&#8217;t know what to make of it but as I say, I haven&#8217;t given it the attention needed. (There is much there; this is a site that will take you in many directions. . . )</p>
<p><img src="http://orangeorb.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/457px-Leda_and_the_Swan_1505-1510-228x300.jpg" alt="457px-Leda_and_the_Swan_1505-1510" title="457px-Leda_and_the_Swan_1505-1510" width="228" height="300" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-216" /></p>
<p>Mentioned, I think, somewhere on the Elfis site, was something about the myth of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leda_and_the_Swan">Leda and the Swan;</a> I also found a passing reference to the Greek myth in <a href="http://www.levity.com/figment/martians.html">Erik Davis&#8217;s 1993 <em>My Favorite Martians: A UFO Epistomology</em></a> &#8212; this myth in context of UFO experiences has been addressed by UFO and esoteric researchers before.  The comparison of this  theme of a god like being or entity (Zeus), disguised as an animal that is familiar to humans,  coming from the skies to have sexual relations with a human female to alien-UFO abduction and contactee accounts is an obvious one to explore in terms of alien-UFO stories.</p>
<p>I am not suggesting my memory had anything to do with anything so literal or sexual &#8212; but the comparisons and connections, all those glittering threads that reveal themselves when going tumbling down the rabbit hole of esoterica &#8212; are natural ones to follow for Fortean junkies like myself.</p>
<p>All that aside, bird  and winged &#8211; being imagery is strong in UFO accounts, and that includes Mothman accounts.</p>
<p>Image: <em>Leda and the Swan</em>, painting by artist from the School of Leonardo da Vinci, 1505-1510, public domain.</p>
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		<title>Mothman Road Trip Dream</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been working on delving into many of my UFO experiences, including &#8220;dreams&#8221; or/ and memories, missing time, and time line of events. A few of my posts have appeared on-line in the past week or so. My idea was &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/11/12/mothman-road-trip-dream/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working on delving into many of my UFO experiences, including &#8220;dreams&#8221; or/ and memories, missing time, and time line of events. A few of my posts have appeared on-line in the past week or so. My idea was to start with intent &#8212; intent to remember, to retrieve:<a href="http://womenesoterica.blogspot.com/2009/11/intent-experiment-retreiving-missing.html"> An Intent Experiment Retreiving Missing Time </a>, and <a href="http://phantomsandmonsters.wetpaint.com/page/Dreams+and+Memories+in+a+UFO+Context"> Dreams and Memories in a UFO Context</a> The latter article I wrote and posted on Phantoms and Monsters last night.</p>
<p>Mothman wasn&#8217;t on my mind, just UFOs, but I had the following dream last night:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m on my way to Point Pleasant &#8212; road trip! A <em>Mothman</em> road trip. A couple of friends are with me. I have an idea to film all this, do a documentary, even though I don&#8217;t want to. I keep saying that there are so many documentaries on Mothman what could I possibly contribute, or uncover, that would be new for anyone? Same old same old.  There is also the fact I don&#8217;t know a thing about making movies or documentaries. (And yet later, when it comes to editing, a tedious process I do not want to do, I can&#8217;t trust anyone else, even with years of editing experience, to touch the film. What if they miss something, lose something, or misnterpret my discovery? I&#8217;ll do it myself, even though it&#8217;s going to be a huge pain.)</p>
<p>We start off in the west; vast, beautiful landscape. Violets and blues and pinks and huge canyons and deserts, just absolutely amazing. Uninhabited by humans. A bit scary too; and suddenly, to my surprise, I realize Mothman is here as well. He, it, has been here. A giangantic shadow appears overhead, gliding silently across the sky. It&#8217;s the shadow of a Mothman/Thunderbird, but not the thing  itself. I&#8217;m surprised we&#8217;d find Mothman out here right away, so far from Point Pleasant. </p>
<p>We keep going. Find petroglyphs in the Southwest that are definitely Mothman. Many Naitves are upset with me, accusing me of being a &#8220;twinkie&#8221; and appropriating and exploiting culture, others don&#8217;t and are helpful. We move on.</p>
<p>Make it to Point Pleasant. Turns out it&#8217;s the day after the Mothman Festival. Streets are littered with confetti, flyers, etc. I&#8217;m a little shocked, and disturbed, at the poverty of the place. A veneer has been set in place but it&#8217; s flimsy; you can see right through things. There is sadness, confusion, loss, and a sense of being lost . . . I really want to leave.</p>
<p>We find a family who own an &#8220;antique&#8221; shop, more of a vintage, sort of, catch all thrift store. They remember Mothman well and to my surprise, are willing to talk to me. I would have thought everyone in the town would be talked out but they want people to understand, to know, and so they don&#8217;t mind me being there. And yet there is such an overall sense of desperation.  Not <em>from</em> Mothman, but because<em> of </em>Mothman: because of how the world has responded to them, their town, their story.</p>
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		<title>Mothman Like Being at Blueberry Lake?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Half listening to Coast to Coast last Halloween night. C2C was having its annual &#8220;Ghost to Ghost&#8221; show, with callers sharing their ghostly experiences. One caller had an interesting story about a winged, humanoid creature following a friend of his &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/11/02/mothman-like-being-at-blueberry-lake/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half listening to Coast to Coast last Halloween night. C2C was having its annual &#8220;Ghost to Ghost&#8221; show, with callers sharing their ghostly experiences. One caller had an interesting story about  a winged, humanoid creature following a friend of his at Blueberry Lake.  (I seem to remember the caller mentioning the Bellvue area of Washington state, where lots of weird things have been going on for some time, but as I said, was half listening and so not sure of the location. I know there&#8217;s a Blueberry Lake resort back east in Vermont, for example&#8230;if anyone was listening to the program last and remembers, I&#8217;d like to hear from you.)</p>
<p>I was a little surprised the host, Ian Punnett, didn&#8217;t mention Mothman, nor did the caller, but Punnett did reference Thunderbirds.</p>
<p>It was a good story; person walking alone, at night, in a lonely part of Blueberry Lake, and hearing the dsitinct sounds of someone following him, or tracking him, from within the brambly blueberry bushes lining the lake. The caller described the sounds as bare feet slapping down on the pavement. When he ran, the unseen creature ran, when he slowed down, so did the creature. When he got away from the bushes and closer to home, he heard a tremendous whoosing sound of wings above his head.</p>
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		<title>My Monster Quest Mothman Moment</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was contacted not long ago by a producer from Monster Quest, who wanted to pick my brain about Mothman. It became clear that the producer and MQ were more interested in Mothman as a literal creature, along the lines &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/08/29/my-monster-quest-mothman-moment/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was contacted not long ago by a producer from Monster Quest, who wanted to pick my brain about Mothman. It became clear that the producer and MQ were more interested in Mothman as a literal creature, along the lines of an owl (more on that in a moment) rather than the so-called &#8220;paranormal&#8221; or conspiracy, spiritual, high strangeness side. </p>
<p>When I mentioned that some think Mothman was just a giant owl, like uber-debunker skeptic Joe Nickell, who refers to himself as a &#8220;paranormal researcher&#8221; instead of the skeptic he is, she said she had been in contact with him. I gave her my opinion, that Mothman was no &#8220;owl&#8221; and that Nickell seems to favor owls; owls are his explanations for the Kelly Hopkinsville UFO entities, and the Flatwoods Monster. </p>
<p>I also mentioned some things about cross-over cases (as Nick Redfern calls them) in crypto research; Mothman (not an owl and all the strange things connected with that) Bigfoot (seen with UFOs, psychic communications, etc.) and so on. As to Mothman, I offered up the idea that the government seems to have been involved; their interest in school children and their statistically out of whack high intelligence, the fact that Charles Manson, when a child, lived in the area, and so on. The producer gave a nervous little laugh and said she &#8220;didn&#8217;t want to get abducted by the government or anything.&#8221; </p>
<p>It was clear the producer was more interested in Mothman as Big Bird; an owl, a crane, rather than the esoteric side, though I got the impression MQ would throw some of that in just for show. After all, like all shows on television, it&#8217;s entertainment.</p>
<p>The conversation was amiable; and who knows where this will lead. I gave her names of better people than I to speak to about this subject; Andrew Colvin, Nick Redfern, and others. (all of whom she said she&#8217;d been in contact with, or was planning to contact.) I just found the take on Mothman an interesting one, of course, the episode hasn&#8217;t aired (if it&#8217;s been made yet) so who can say. </p>
<p>In thinking about the episodes of MQ, they seem to shy away from the paranormal/supernatural or Fortean side. They do go there, but it seems they prefer to stay on the &#8220;it&#8217;s fantastic, but it isn&#8217;t <em>weird</em>&#8221; side of the fringe fence. Which is fine, I&#8217;m making an observation, not a criticism. (Although it would be nice to see more of the strange side.) </p>
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		<title>Batsquatch Sightings Near Mt. Shasta</title>
		<link>http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/03/23/batsquatch-sightings-near-mt-shasta/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mt. Shasta has a long history of weird events; from Bigfoot sightings to strange beings in general, odd, multi-colored lights, and more. Batsquatch could be considered a companion to Mothman in some ways; Andrew Colvin discusses Batsquatch in his Mothman &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2009/03/23/batsquatch-sightings-near-mt-shasta/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mt. Shasta has a long history of weird events; from Bigfoot sightings to strange beings in general, odd, multi-colored lights, and more. Batsquatch could be considered a companion to Mothman in some ways; Andrew Colvin discusses Batsquatch in his Mothman books. Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.alienseekernews.com/articles/barsquatch-sighted-at-mt-shasta.html">recent article by Paul Dale Roberts on the Batsquatch at Mt. Shasta.</a></p>
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		<title>Thunderbird Disney Drawing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Regan Lee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this image in a couple of places on-line, including the Coast to Coast site, where a listener had sent in this info about the illustration: Cleveland Press (a now defunct newspaper) printed back in late 1950&#8242;s. This was &#8230; <a href="http://orangeorb.net/blog/2008/12/30/thunderbird-disney-drawing/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I found this image in a couple of places on-line, including the Coast to Coast site, where a listener had sent in this info about the illustration:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cleveland Press (a now defunct newspaper) printed back in late 1950&#8242;s. This was from the &#8220;True Life Adventures&#8221; (non-fictional) put out by Disney.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like the fact that Disney put this in the non-fiction, &#8220;True Life Adventure&#8221; category&#8230;</p>
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